How Petra Segger Uses Qi for Rapid Recovery & Well-being - Petra Segger

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In this episode of the Wisdom Qigong Podcast, Petra Segger shares her experiences as a Hunyuan Qi therapist, demonstrating how Qigong healing can bring about rapid results by working directly with the body’s energy field. Rather than focusing on traditional psychology or medical interventions, Petra emphasizes the power of intention, visualization, and the Qi field. She explains that true transformation often begins with simply clearing blockages, allowing people to let go of emotional burdens and stagnant energy so that the body’s natural self-healing power can activate.

Through real-life examples, Petra illustrates how Qi therapy has helped clients overcome challenges such as back pain, panic attacks, migraines, and emotional trauma. In one story, a woman who had been unhappy for seven years experienced profound release and regained her joy after a single session. In another, Petra describes using visualization healing to help someone suffering with gallstones and arthritis pain, These stories highlight not only the potential of energy healing but also how Qigong principles can be integrated into everyday life from calming a crying baby on a plane to sending Qi to strangers in need.

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• Qigong healing works on the energy level
• Qigong can bring rapid healing results
• Qigong emphasizes releasing blockages
• Qigong therapy uses visualization techniques
• Qigong can address both physical and emotional conditions
• Qigong supports the body’s natural self-healing power
• Qigong practice is effective in everyday life
• Qigong healing integrates well with natural health practices
• Qigong highlights the importance of intention
• ••Qigong reminds us that healing can be immediate

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[00:00:00] In this episode, we are joined by Qi therapist Petra Segger, discussing rapid healing results and the body's natural ability to release blockages by focusing on the energetic level rather than traditional, psychological or medical interventions. [00:00:20] She demonstrates the power of focused intention and visualization.

My name is to Torsten Lüddecke, and this is the Wisdom Qigong podcast.[00:00:40] 

Hello everyone and welcome to the Wisdom Qigong podcast. Uh, today my guest is Petra Segger. Petra is from Germany, and she is a health and wellbeing coach focusing on the techniques used at the Medicineless Hospital. This is why she became a Hunyuan Qi therapist. . Today we're going to talk a little [00:01:00] bit about her experiences and, uh, and hear how she uses the techniques of the Medicineless Hospital, the Huaxia Center. Petra, welcome to the show and, uh, maybe you would, uh, like to tell us a little bit about the work you do and how you do it, and then share some of the cases you've worked with, please.[00:01:20] 

Yeah. Hello Torsten. Hello everyone. So thank you for having me here. It's really a pleasure. And, uh, yeah, I'm, I'm happy to talk a little bit about my work. So I am, uh, yeah, as, as you just said. So I am Hunyuan Q therapist and, uh, in my work I [00:01:40] am, uh, using a lot therapy and also, um, um, I have experiences. With very fast healing.

So, um, and this is, this is very amazing and, uh, always to see really the emotions of the people [00:02:00] when they open the eyes and think, oh gosh, what just happened is really great to see. So yeah, I had, uh, for example, there, there was an elderly man who was, when you see him, looks a little bit grumpy. And, and not really so [00:02:20] happy.

And, uh, so, and he came to me and wanted to, to release, uh, blockages on, on the emotional part and some other things. And so, and I'm working like that, that, uh, when, when I do un and cheese therapy alone, so not in a group. [00:02:40] Then I am, I'm really, uh, listening of course to what, uh, the client has. And then when I connect to the person in that moment when I see, or, or mostly I feel.

What the person has. So I know some people can [00:03:00] see what someone has, and I, I feel it more in the same area. So, and then I decide when I'm already on the Qi field, what, what I will do at the end. So, and in this case, uh, for example, this, um. I was, had, have a [00:03:20] feeling that I need to first to really clean the body from, from all, , rubbish.

So there all, all the tons of old stuff, what's in there? And, and, uh, so I, I went first on in the cleaning, so from head [00:03:40] to. And, and later on, uh, , the man said this was really feeling already, uh, uh, feeling also for him as if some. Uh, whole cleaning crew is going through his body and everything goes out through the [00:04:00] feet.

And then when, when I finished one part, I also did then, uh, some, uh, techniques, what we are using with, uh, her sun. The sun, what was also in on combination. And then I also went to his head and I really was thinking, okay, I. [00:04:20] I was imagining, so really visualizing that all the blockages there really go out of the head.

And later on he described it as if there was a, a water castle and as if the bridges were from [00:04:40] outside to inside have been rebuild. So he said something like talk. Stuck. Something like really something rebuilding in, in, in his mind. Yeah. So it's a bit like things falling back into places where they belong.

Is that what you mean with that? Um, yeah. And, [00:05:00] and also really, um, this, yeah. When, when you are, uh, for example, imagine you work for 30 years just in a, in a, in a, in a gray environment. So eight days a day. So, and then kind of your mind goes [00:05:20] stuck somehow. And so this was really relieved and, uh, and, and yeah, put back in, into places.

Might be like that. I'd like to, to mention a few points here that you mentioned that I think is important now. One is that you seem to be, uh, working [00:05:40] on the information level initially, so already the conversation you have with the client means you picking up information and then later on you are transforming this information.

I think this is kind of what you also do when you go through the body the, the second thing that I noticed when you said, um, you know, the healing happens very fast. Mm-hmm. And [00:06:00] I think this is something that, um. For a lot of us, we, we, we sometimes forget because, uh, if I hear the stories from the Medicineless Hospital and from Dr Pang.

Pang giving lectures, you know, things would disappear in an instant. So, you know, for example, if there was a tumor or something like that, he would give the lecture and at the end of the lecture, the tumor [00:06:20] would've gone. Would've be gone. Mm-hmm. So it's not always about the diligent practice Over years.

Now we can have success and uh, and, and, and it change immediately. And I think we should be open to that where we give these treatments or when we work with Ong in, in general. Mm-hmm. Uh, and then there's another point, so you mentioned so many points, uh, 'cause when you said it's [00:06:40] like a cleaning. Going through the body and he's letting go.

He's releasing. I mean, release is an essential part of, uh, everything in Zhineng Qigong. It is about absorbing. So we are absorbing the qi of nature, but we're also letting go of what we don't need anymore, which you call the rubbish. So, uh, I think this makes a, a lot of sense to me [00:07:00] that first of all, when you go through the healing process, uh, a very fundamental step is to let go of everything that is blocking your, your Qi Flow, everything that you don't need anymore, any ba baggage you've got from the, from the past.

So, I just wanted to mention all these points because they came up while you were describing what you were doing with this gentleman. [00:07:20] So, but please continue. Yeah. Yeah. For example, I recently met, uh, a really, uh. Beautiful woman, uh, in her mid forties, and she was really pouring her heart out to me what happened? And she told me that since even seven [00:07:40] years, she was not happy anymore.

She was also feeling, uh, alone. She was so not going out anymore with friends because, so seven years ago something happened. What, what really was. Kind of a shock for her. And since that time, her [00:08:00] life really changed and she, she, she really, yeah, as I said, she wasn't happy anymore. And, uh, this woman, she therapy experience was, uh, very extreme to me.

There was during the therapy, very strong emotional [00:08:20] reaction with crying and also bodily reactions and, um, yeah, but maybe I, I am telling you what, what happened, so I also, I connected to her and I also always say. Not only to her always [00:08:40] that this is, uh, she is a person should really imagine herself in a very happy, uh, or in, in the perfect surroundings so that you really see your yourself in the, in the perfect, uh, picture.

So and so we started, I connected, I [00:09:00] built a chi field, and then I, I first went to her head. In that moment, I was also, again, kind of, uh, trying to, to clean the brain. Her, she was sitting on, on a chair and the upper body went like [00:09:20] this. So she got backwards, kind of, and, and she started also crying. And so then I did this.

I was thinking, oh, well already. So it was very strong. And uh, then the second part. I was just going through the body and [00:09:40] then I went to, um, Ian Palace and, and pulled out everything from Ian Palace. And in this moment I started her, her body, her upper body went like this to the front. So, and, and she was, she really had, [00:10:00] she was.

Kind of shivering and I was thinking, shall I go on or not? So, and then I went on, because I think this, this, it was just my feeling that it, it really, it's okay to, to let it go to really, it's going out. And then I was pulling again the [00:10:20] qi field like. Was imagining like silk over her.

So very soft Qi field cooling down. She was cooling down. I hold the qi field and then she was totally wet and uh, [00:10:40] but she opened the eyes and, and she said already. Well, this was fantastic. Since later she told me since that day she was happy again and I think this is amazing and it's a , great.

Way of showing, uh, how we [00:11:00] work in Hunyuan Qi Therapy. Because when you started your story about this woman where, you know, something that happened seven years ago and since then she wasn't happy anymore, um, our initial reaction would be, well, she, maybe she should talk to a. Psychologists so that they go through the story, they work through it, et cetera.

But that's not what we do usually. I mean, we [00:11:20] work on the energy level. So all she did, she basically closed her eyes if I, if I understand you correctly. Yes. Right. And you worked with the energy. And you work with the energy and she went through all these physical reactions, which was a way of her.

Releasing, letting go of this story, letting go of this burden and connecting back with who she [00:11:40] really is and connecting with her joy and her, uh, you know, and her love for life. So, um, it's, it's, uh, I I love that you share this because it really shows the emphasis of this work, it's energy work, um, and not so much, um, you know, like a, like a therapist.

Psychotherapist or a psychologist would work [00:12:00] through conversations. Yes, you do have conversations initially because you want to get to know your client and you want to, um, establish a certain level of trust and of, um, uh, empathy with each other, but then it's energy work that you do.

And I think this illustrated this, uh, very well. Uh, do you want to add, do you want to add to this story? By any chance? [00:12:20] Oh, we, we also met, uh, two times after this, uh, work. Uh, um, but, uh, so this was actually, it was everything was okay for her since that time. So, and I have not heard back anything that she, she, she had to fall back, uh, to the, to the [00:12:40] past.

But, uh, no. So she, she's okay. She's good. Good. . Now you mentioned, you mentioned earlier, um, uh, that sometimes it's very fast and I know that you also have experiences outside your practice, so this is a profession that you have. So you obviously. Working with people that come to you, [00:13:00] but sometimes, you know, life happens.

And when we are out on the streets now we are involved or we witness incidences. And I know you had one or two incidences, uh, recently maybe that you would like to share where you used qi therapy without the other person even knowing about it. Yes, yes. So this was really, [00:13:20] um, so, uh, first one was in, in Dusseldorf main station.

So I was on a train trip to, uh, Amsterdam. And so I, I was on, on the station in Dusseldorf, and when I arrived with my local train, went down the stairs, I saw already that something was [00:13:40] not okay on the stairs. And there is a, um, you have stairs, then you have a plateau. And then you have against stairs and, and someone, fell down there.

So, and people were already around that person. And so I could see first this, this guy stood up [00:14:00] I and I, but I could see he was bleeding and then , , the legs. Collapsed, and then he was lying down. Okay. Then people were already around and I immediately have sent Hunyuan Qi, everything is perfect, everything is all right.

And then with, uh, with the people surrounding the guy. [00:14:20] So then, uh, I didn't, I wasn't sure if someone called the ambulance already. And so I was calling the ambulance and uh, this guy told me, okay, uh, go down. It's that we see you at the right there when we come that I can direct them.

So, so and so I went down. The other [00:14:40] people were around this guy, and the whole time, uh, I was. I was just, in my mind, I was sending Qi to him and everything should be okay. And then I got a new from another person, uh, just a second before the ambulance arrived that he, at least, uh, he, woke up [00:15:00] again.

So, and I quickly, because I also had to go to my train to Amsterdam, I quickly went up again and he, he was really there. He didn't know what I was doing, but we had for a short moment, eye contact and it really felt like kind of saying [00:15:20] thank you. And this was really also was a little bit weird. . So to have this, uh, this situation.

So, because it's also the very first time for me. Yes. Yeah. So, so basically he must have, uh. Known somewhere deep inside that there was a connection [00:15:40] between you and him, that you have been doing this work with him. And this is why probably you recognized you among all these people when you look into your eyes and without knowing, consciously knowing why that was.

Uh, but yeah, that was the part of him that knew about it. And, uh, and thank you so, and I'm glad he's here. He was doing so much better [00:16:00] within period. Yeah. And then implant arrived. I had to go to my train, so I don't know what's going on. Yeah. And, and this was really a really strange coincidence. And then I was, uh, on my back tour from Amsterdam to Dusseldorf and maybe if you know the Amsterdam, uh, uh, [00:16:20] station.

There are, there are some, uh, uh, where you put your ticket in. I don't know. So, and before you come to this little ticket machine, there are, I think there was three, three steps. And there was a woman with some luggage and she, she [00:16:40] was falling down kind of the three steps and she felt like this and with her head against this machine.

So, and there also were immediately people around. I was on the other side already and I was just. Uh, also standing in the background and [00:17:00] just sending qi to her. And, um, and she also, she was also, um, for, but only for a short moment. This, I don't know, this might also have been coincidence. I have no idea.

She, after a couple of minutes she stood up again. She was [00:17:20] a little bit unsafe on the legs, but she stood up and then I also had to leave. So. It. It was like that we, we, we never know. We never know whether it's coincidence or whether it's the result of our work. Uh, but I just want to encourage everyone. I mean, we are often, thank God [00:17:40] we are not so often involved or witness of an accident like this, but, uh, what we are all involved in quite frequently, uh, say you are in.

Friend or a public place and you see people arguing with each other in a bad energy or fighting with each other and so on and so on. And this is a great opportunity for us to practice this. So [00:18:00] there we can send qi loving Qi, qi of harmony, you know, qi of understanding. Um, and, and just see what happens.

And I find this quite fascinating because then very often, you know, if it's a couple or whatever, uh, they calm down. They calmed down and you know, a few minutes later they're back into a normal conversation. Uh, I al [00:18:20] yeah, I'm traveling a lot so often when I'm sitting on the plane and I have a baby crying, uh, because yeah, obviously they feel very uncomfortable on the plane with the air pressure and so on, and there's a lot of noise and nobody can sleep.

So I just sent, you know, loving energy and calming energy to the baby. And then after a few minutes it's going to be quiet and everybody can have a [00:18:40] rest. So these are little experiments again, I can't prove and nobody knows whether it's because of my, or whether the baby was just totally tired. Uh, but, uh, I think yeah, just by doing it, and you will notice that more often than not, you will have an effect.

Or something will shift. Um, so this is a nice little experiment all of us can do. Um, and at [00:19:00] the same time, you know, contributing to our community, to our environment, and to the people in our lives. Yeah. So, uh, yes, thank you for sharing that. Yeah. So, and the next one, which was, uh, definitely from what I was doing.

So, uh, there is a, yeah, an upcoming new friendship. And, uh, I [00:19:20] was, uh, uh. I had an appointment with, with one woman and I picked her up at her home and she said to me, oh, I have, since three days I have back pain and the painkillers are not helping. So, and I said, okay, [00:19:40] so let's, before we leave, uh. Lay down on your couch or what, what she had there.

And I said, we, we will try something. So, and, and she laid down and, uh, I said, just relax and imagine the back pain is already gone. Is [00:20:00] already gone. And so I, I just made my, uh, work for. Five, not, not even, not 10 minutes. And, and said, okay, done. And then, uh, she opened the eyes, she looked at me and said, [00:20:20] woo, it's gone.

It was gone. Her pain was gone. So, and, and also again, she also said she had a feeling as if I'm, I have pulled the pain out of her. So, and this was, was also definitely. From from my work. Yeah. [00:20:40] Now, now this seems to be a recurring, uh, pattern in your work that, uh, you seem to be focusing a lot on getting out of the body, whatever is in the way of being completely healthy and well.

Right. Uh, it seems to be a focus, um, of what you're doing. Um, can you tell us a little more [00:21:00] about that and why you, so, I'm, I'm, I'm not doing this by, uh, by purpose. It's, it, it just happens. So also, for example, for myself, when I'm playing with, uh, I'm, I'm just, very often I'm playing with a qi. I'm just need to do like [00:21:20] this and I'm just, I, I'm, I'm not following the, this amazing feeling anymore.

I'm just observing where the she goes and what's, what happened. So I am. It's not by purpose. I also do, uh, zu, um, chi, [00:21:40] chi, uh, and so on and, uh, and for son and meah and, but yeah, this is what, what has happened in, in this case, cases. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But it might be because of people, uh, who, who know what I'm doing.

[00:22:00] They, they, I say, I always say, I don't like this to say, they say, you have healing hands. It just, it's, well, it's, it's not me. I'm giving you the impulse, impulse for healing, but you heal by yourself, right? So, and, and this is all [00:22:20] about, uh, self-healing. And you, you give the right, uh, trigger, right? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. So that's okay. And, um, and yeah, there was another happening, this was even last week, [00:22:40] so I was in Dusseldorf. There was a, a networking, uh, event outside Beautiful weather and Dusseldorf. On the backside of the boing industry are very beautiful with a little water area and a park also. And, uh, so there [00:23:00] were, I think more than a hundred women outside and we had a good time.

And then I saw one woman sitting in, in a corner. She was, she had her eyes closed, she was kind of breathing strongly and had her, her hand on the left side. And I [00:23:20] was going to her and asked her, Hey, what's going on? She said, oh, she, it feels like she, he has a heart attack. And I was thinking, oh gosh. So watch what you do.

And I was thinking, okay, give it the try very fast. So I said, relax, imagine everything is okay, even if it's [00:23:40] difficult. And I was connecting and I was imagining that I widen, widen the heart. Make it bigger and everything flows perfectly. Everything is pumping perfectly. Everything is very soft. Open, open, open, open, open.

Not, not five [00:24:00] minutes, and she opened the eyes. She even had a little bit tears in the eyes, kind of being surprised, being, not believing it, being grateful for, and she said it's gone. Yeah. So[00:24:20] 

this works better. And I was thinking, okay. Right, right. Choice was my, was my intention. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. I'd say it's a great example of how you use your intention and visualization to imagine, I mean, with full power of your intention, the [00:24:40] other person to be healthy, because this is a moment where it's not about doubt, where it's really about going com.

Completely and fully into the imagination of, uh, her being healthy. Because if it was something serious, then you don't want to, uh, yeah, you don't want to be half-hearted here. You want to go in fully with the energy, with the [00:25:00] information that everything is normal again and is acting, uh, healthy. Mm-hmm.

And. I, I don't want to let you go before mentioning that. Uh, you, um, are also working a lot with, um, Omega-3, which is an oil. I think most of our listeners will know that. And, uh, I think you compared earlier how the [00:25:20] Omega-3 works in the body and how you are working as a therapist. So this could be an interesting, you know, thought, uh, to add to this podcast.

So maybe you can explain what you meant by that. So, yeah. As, uh, maybe some people who know about Hunyuan Qi Therapy and Zhineng Qigong, master Li always says we are working [00:25:40] on membrane level, so, which is a hundred percent, uh, right and true. And, um, but I often have people in, in my, in my, uh, praxis, uh, which are. Uh, they say, oh, I don't have the time to make one, two hours Ong [00:26:00] every day, and blah, blah, blah.

So, and, and there is, I'm, I'm also working a lot with, uh, as you said, with uh, Omega-3 Oil, which is also working on membrane level. So, and I also, um, explained, uh, this what I'm doing to, uh, Malu and he said, oh, that's [00:26:20] good. That's, that's good to combine and, uh. So I had one client who, uh, who is, um, who's using the Omega-3.

So it's, and by the way, it's not in capsules. I do, capsules are not good because you, you have to imagine we are talking [00:26:40] about fish, and when you have a fresh fish, what are you doing? You're putting the fish. In the fridge and also in the shop. It's under cooling and so on. And in this capsule, this is, this is nowhere cooled.

So you take rancid oil if you take capsules. So I, [00:27:00] I'm only recommending it, uh, in, in bottles. Um. So that, just as a slight remark. So, and this lady, she takes Omega-3 and, uh, she had, uh, various things. She had panic attacks, she had fear attacks, she had migraine, [00:27:20] she had polio treaters in the hands, and she was right standing right before an operation for removing, um, gall uh, stones.

So, and I said, okay, let's, she, she was, she only told me this, [00:27:40] uh, just to be correct. Not at the very beginning when we met, just only couple of months later. So, and, and, but she took the oil and, uh, after this five months, her migraine was gone. Her panic attacks were gone. The fear attacks [00:28:00] were gone. She was very happy about this because she said this, this, this heart, strong heart, uh, uh, pump pumping.

Yeah, is, she was very afraid when she had this, so this was okay so far, but the polio treaters in the hands was not completely [00:28:20] gum. And with the gold stones only then she told me. So I said, okay, let's do a chy uh, therapy for that. So I did it. Um, and, uh. Immediately after Hunyuan Qi Therapy, the polio treatise pain, [00:28:40] and the hands was completely gone to my knowledge.

Now she was on holiday with her husband and, and, uh, it, it did not come back. And the next appointment for the doctor. Because here in Germany often it's like that it takes time until you get the next doctor [00:29:00] appointment because every everywhere is, uh, is fully booked. So, and which was two weeks ago, and then she told me her, uh, uh, goals.

Uh, what's the English word? Gold Stones. There were uh, just one was remaining [00:29:20] and just was smaller than one centimeter. So, um, as we didn't do anything else, or she didn't change anything else. This with the hands is also in combination with, uh, Omega-3 because it reduces the inflammation in, in the body, so [00:29:40] the inflammation in the, this little ankles.

Uh, but, and, and the, but the gold, gold stones, this, I, I cannot imagine that this was, uh, from the oil, I guess this, this really must have been from the Hunyuan Qi Therapy, right? So, so, so she has now really, [00:30:00] uh. A different life. A different life, because imagine from panic attacks and fear attacks, migraine minimum once a month, uh, and so on.

Now to, to relieving all this, this is really fantastic. I [00:30:20] love this word and I, and I just thought I'll mention that because it's, uh, quite interesting when it comes to supplements, um, nutritional supplements. There are all kinds of opinions whether they are useful or not useful, but I know that Omega-3 is one of the few where basically all.

Everybody agrees. It's a very useful supplement. [00:30:40] And uh, it's interesting I mentioned that because as you said, Omega-3 is working on the membrane level, you know, next to the, uh, inflammation, uh, anti-inflammation effects it has. And that, uh, we are working on your t therapy also with the membrane level. Uh, so that's a nice and interesting parallel here.

Um, which. I'm not a nutritionist, so I [00:31:00] don't quote me on that, but I, yeah, I think it would make perfect sense that one is reinforcing the other and vice versa. So that's why I thought it would be interesting to hear from you about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, Petra, uh, I know you have a successful practice, uh, close to Dusseldorf.

It's in a beautiful, uh, is it a, like a castle or something? Yeah, it's in [00:31:20] the castles. So in the castle of God. So, which is in the south of Dusseldorf. Many people know the castle in benra. And there is another one, it's smaller, but it's also very beautiful. It's in Garra, so in, in, in the, in, in the most south, uh, [00:31:40] area of, uh, DDO.

Yeah. But those of us who don't work a lot with close, uh, to Dusseldorf, but are listening in from India or from Mexico, uh, are you also available over Zoom for your consultations? Yes, of course. Yes. Okay, good. Time, we know time and space does not matter, so [00:32:00] that's correct. We will obviously put all your details in the show notes, so anybody who's interested to hear more or learn more or work with you or learn from you, uh, please feel free to get in touch with Petra and I thank you very much today for your time.

For sharing all these experiences with us. 'cause I think it's always very good, very useful [00:32:20] for us to hear real case stories, case studies, uh, because it reinforces our own, um, our own belief and our own, um, uh, work. Uh, and just, you know. Keeps us going if we hear our successful, uh, it is actually used in daily practice.

So thank you very much Petra and I look forward to see [00:32:40] you soon somewhere in any of the trainings. Yes, Halah, thank you so much and have a great day. Halah.