Structure to Freedom Through Qigong - Gabriela Perezcano

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Gabriela Perezcano’s journey into Zhineng Qigong didn’t be start with a desire for healing, but with a deep curiosity about consciousness. As a structured, logic-driven professional and mother of three, her path originally led her to pursue a master’s degree in consciousness studies. But it was through daily Qigong practice, not academic theory, that she encountered a profound true consciousness. 

Zhineng Qigong practice became the bridge between Gabriela’s meticulously structured, logic-driven world and a living experience of consciousness. Beginning with simple Level 1 Qigong movements and daily La Qi, she felt Qi flow course through her body, opening the door to genuine mind-body connection and inner transformation. 

Gabriela’s story reflects how practical spirituality can transform not just the individual, but also their relationships, parenting, and perspective on life itself. By letting go of rigid mental patterns and embracing intention and presence, she discovered how to show up authentically in both personal and professional spaces. Her experience illustrates that healing through Qigong is not just about body or energy, but it’s about reconnecting with who you truly are, and learning to live with consciousness every day.

Join Gabriela as she shares how daily Qigong practice helped her move beyond structure and logic to experience true consciousness, inner peace, and lasting transformation.

Mindful moments:

• Qigong opened the door to true consciousness beyond academic theory or intellectual pursuit.
• Qigong helped Gabriela shift from logic to presence, reconnecting with her inner self.
• Daily Qigong practice became a path to transformation, not just personal growth but relational harmony.
• Qigong offered a living experience of awareness, far beyond structured knowledge.
• Qigong created space for inner peace, clarity, and emotional freedom in Gabriela’s daily life.
• Qigong dissolved rigid mental patterns, allowing more authentic self-expression.
• Qigong supported conscious parenting, changing the emotional tone of her family life.
• Qigong bridged the gap between intellect and embodiment, grounding consciousness in experience.
• Qigong empowered Gabriela to live with intention, not pressure or perfection.
• Qigong became a tool for daily presence, connection, and real-life spiritual practice.

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Transcript

When Gabriela looks back at her life 10 years ago as a working mom with three kids, her life was defined by discipline and structure so much that she was looking forward a way forward and started to explore the meaning of consciousness. Is at that point though, her thinking was so structured that in her mind, the way forward was to get a diploma in Master of Consciousness.

Little did she know that her path to consciousness took very different turns. My name is to Torsten Lüddecke and this is the Wisdom Qigong podcast.

Okay. Hello everyone and welcome to the Wisdom Qigong podcast. Today I have, uh, Gabriela Perezcano with me. She is, uh, from Mexico, a well-known, uh, Zhineng Qigong teacher. And, uh, I spoke to her and I said, now, what would you like to talk about? And Gabriela said to me, listen, when I first started. Uh, the word consciousness didn't really mean anything to me.

I was always wondering what is it actually about? And through zhineng qigong, I discovered what consciously actually is, and I learned so much about it. So I think we should just start right at the beginning, Gabriela uh, consciousness. Now, before you started this journey, what did it mean to you or what were your questions?

Um, hi Torsten, and thank you for having me. What I tell you is, is actually what happened to me. I heard this word probably all of my life, not really knowing what it was all about. And if anything, I would immediately link it to the moral consciousness, either good or bad. No. And, and that was it. But, but in truth, the, um, the conscious part of, of us human beings, of me as a person, and I.

It had no meaning to me. Um, throughout my life. I, the truth is, I, I, I confronted some difficulties and started a meditation path at the beginning, which led to so many other things. And through that path is that I, I would tell you more than learn what consciousness is. I'd say I encountered consciousness.

It just. came up. So, uh, but it was Zhineng Qigong, the, the practice that by far has been the one more which has allowed me to experience it the most. And from there, then throughout everything else that I do. I've been able to be in consciousness, how to say. So how would you define consciousness today?

What is it for you?

Well, um, it is easier to experience it than to define it with words. I always say that sometimes words come short and are, are, it is very difficult to put in words Some things, some concepts and consciousness is, is one of those. But I, if I'd had to, to describe it, I'd say it is awareness of just being aware, you know, the stepping up from awareness. To Just being aware of being aware probably that's the way I would define it. Right. And when you say it is easier to experience than to, uh, describe it, how does it show up in your experience? What is this experience like?

At first, and let me start by saying this at first, and it was through Zhineng Qigong that I started. Having this experience of, um, of something that is transpersonal that, that, that transcends the body. The, the daily, very physical and material experience that I was used to and that probably most of us are, are very used to.

and I started by. Um, experimented in meditation, in practice, uh, through probably the chin and chi movements,

this ability to, to, to be in contact with something transpersonal, but knowing that, that, that it is who I am as well. So, um, and at the beginning, very much in practice, but what has happened through time is that I am able to, to be in contact with this part as much as I want to in, in, now I go from that experience to my daily and actual life.

So if I try to put this into simple words, is what you're saying is that, um, the experience of a consciousness means for you that you have transcended your body. Your, your, your limited idea of this is Gabriela and transcended into more than that. So basically, um, encompassing, you know, everything else.

And then you said, what, what if you, the moment you transparent, you, you, you transcend that. Um, you understand also that this is what you are. So not the limited, you know person. Gabriela, this is me. This is my buddy. This is my thought. That you are all of that. Is that what you're saying here? Yeah. Pretty much so.

Yes. Yes, yes. What, how does it affect your everyday life experience then? So what has changed, because you said that now when you started this journey, you were facing some challenges in your life and, uh, so there was a reason why you were, why you were looking for, uh, for a path to consciousness. So how has it transformed your life in so many ways?

And I can say that now. I didn't notice it throughout. Uh, time. But in hindsight, if I today take a look at my life 10 years ago, um, I'd say that pretty much everything was, in essence very, very different. Um, I am a mother of three. No. Um, I probably started this yes, around nine or 10 years ago. Right now they are.

20,18 and 15. 10 years ago they were 10, eight, and five. and I'm, I'm talking about this as an example because for starters, I was, uh, working mom with a hectic life with three kids, uh, with a lot of structure and discipline, probably, um, very strict and, uh. If you ask my, my children now, they don't even remember that mother today.

They'd say, mom, you, you are always calm. You are always. It's not that I was not loving, but uh, loving in, in probably a harsher word, not way that I am right now. Um, so when I started looking at changes in my life, I saw them as like that. With my family, with my environment in my workplace, in like, it was easier to see it affecting other people, which was, um, mind blowing for me because I was starting a path for myself.

I thought, this is, this will change me. The truth is it doesn't change you. You are. Who you are. And I think this is just like taking away oil, this veils that, that allow you to be, to be your whole self, your true self. And that reflects on life, you know, on, on life and your family, on, on the things you do, on the plans ahead.

I even say on your memories. No, you. What happened, happened, but uh, the way you, you look at it and what you do with that, if you are in a, let's say, more stable state of consciousness changes. So, so that's where I see, uh, a change in my life. It is very profound, but as well, it is very practical and daily.

I listen when I listen to you, it seems to me because yeah, you, you produce it, you compare yourself to 10 years ago and you said of course you were also a loving mother. But it seems to me that uh, at that point there was a lot of pressure, uh, upon you and that made you feel come across harsher because you were like stressed and you want to do things right.

And there's so many things that go on and, uh, then obviously that has an impact on your relationships. Right? And, uh, it seems to me that, that through the work that you've done and the consciousness that you've, that you've created here, that, uh, that you could let go of that pressure and you can show up, you know, as the gentle woman that you are and, uh, that, you know, transforms the relationships and that not just now you, you, you're making the focus now on the other people, but I'm sure also for you, it makes a big impact because you must feel so much more.

Uh, you know, relieved, um, and, um, at ease with life and, uh, with your relationships. Then the constant, uh, pressure to, you know, to perform or to achieve certain things, so to make sure things are right. Um, is that, is that kind of, you know, is that a good way of summing up, you know, how your relationships have changed and how things have changed for you?

Yes. Yes, it is. It is, and I'm, I'm talking about like the external world around me because. That was very obvious for me. No, um, see, looking at the changes there, but of course the one who was becoming her own self was me. This is just a reflection and um, and I like your very much the term showing up, the way I show up for myself and the way I show up in the world that is what is different. And so it is a whole new perspective, I'd say. 

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I also, uh, noticed that you said that for you, you wouldn't necessarily, um, experience the change you were going through on a daily basis, but now when you look back at who you were, uh, then the change is apparent. I. And I think this is an interesting, um, lesson for all of us because, uh, often when we practice or we do this work, uh, this, uh, work in awareness, uh, we don't necessarily, you know, experience that today is so different than yesterday.

But if we, if we then look back to half a year ago or a year ago or something like that, then we say, wow. Uh, things that today I take for granted in terms of what I understand of, uh, how I show up. It's so different from what it was like, you know, six months or a year ago, or in your case, even 10 years ago.

Mm-hmm. And that I think, should encourage people, you know, not to necessarily after each session, make a check and say, yeah, I'm better now, or not so good, or whatever. It's a process and uh, it's a journey and sometimes you need to look, um, uh, longer over, longer time starts to actually realize what you have achieved.

Uh, because it's also obvious on a, on a daily basis, right? let's look into what you, what have you done practically now? Um, how did you do the consciousness work? Because, you know, some of our listeners might now say, okay, well I want that for myself, but how did you do it?

What exercises did she do? Or what did she focus on? Or how did she structure her day to be able to do these things? Maybe you can talk a little practical here. Well, I'll start by saying how I started this path was by taking a meditation course and, um, I just said, I, I want to learn to meditate.

I'm from there. Many things happen, but, uh, I am an engineer. I am a chemical engineering. That is my profession. Um, I am very structured, very analytical. I love. Logical thinking and rationality. That's the way I develop always. Um, so when the first times that I sat on occasion and try to meditate and I received something different, I needed this structure and this academic approach even.

So I, after a, a couple of years of, of, of this. Having meditation and healing. Um, I, I applied for a master's in consciousness studies in an academic setting that would, that was my approach because that was my background and, uh, I needed to sit on a class and write notes and have. Um, a teacher telling me what it was.

So, uh, I hope, I hope, Gabriela, it sounds as funny to you today, as it sounds, sounds to you right now, when, and I actually met one Zhineng Qigong teacher during that time and once I was having a conversation with him and, and I said, I'm, I'm studying a master's in a US University on consciousness. And he said, we have been doing, we, Chinese people have been doing this for thousands of years, and you are going to a, an actual classroom and listening to someone to tell you what it is.

And he laughed and uh, and he said, and someone is paying this teachers how many thousands or millions of dollars to teach other? And he said, you. Um, you Western people, you are very funny. And, uh, and then I, I told this to one of my main teachers, uh, in, in the degree, and she said he gave you the cosmic laugh.

And, uh, and that day I understood something. And actually during the, the, the next month that we, we were in custody, she often referred to. What we're experiencing right now is Gabriella's Zhineng Qigong teacher telling her, giving her the cosmic laugh. No, it, it, it became a term, the cosmic life laugh of my, of my Zhineng Qigong teacher because, and I started to understand this is not something that, that you learn in a classroom or that you take notes.

But I, at the same time started a Zhineng Qigong practice, and that's why I tell you that 

where I started having the experience, I had all the notes I had read, not all the books, but many. No, I, I had the teachers, I had the classroom. Um, but just by, by doing La Qi very simply, that was one of the first, um, practice practices or exercises that I. Where I realized something is happening here, you know?

Um, and probably all the information that I had on me at that point, of course, build it up and, uh, um, and allowed this to happen. But, uh. It was not until I started and practically I started by doing Zhineng Qigong level one. That that was it. The first time I did it, I understood nothing. Now I know there's nothing to understand, but rather to experience, but I, I got tired.

I, I didn't know how to flow, how to, if I needed to know that. By memory or not, or I was actually uncomfortable probably at, at, at the beginning. But I'd say that having the intention to, to continue made all the difference, and I don't know how long it took, but probably just a couple of months to start.

To start leaving this very structured state of logical thinking that I lived in all the time. When I tell you all the time, it was all the time in my dreams when I woke up, when I took my children to school, when I went to work and suddenly finding this space, I'd say, where all that? It's not that it disappeared, but where all that didn't didn't affect me.

No. Right. Didn't. Mm-hmm. And at first the, the practice was, was very physical, very movements level one, open toes. I, uh. My approach to chin and chicken has been very past. I, I practiced level one for more than a year, probably two until I went to the next one and on, and after seven years, I'm starting to learn level three.

For example, I, I've given it the time to sink in to, to become. One with the exercises, with the levels, with the, and that's the way I've approached it. Now when you think of level one, I mean, most of the time if somebody's new to Zhineng Qigong and go to a teacher and they're taught to Lift Qi Up, or La Qi, or we don't necessarily talk much about consciousness or about awareness.

I. Uh, but the, the essence of level one is the idea of opening up to the universe and then closing, or, you know, absorbing the universe. So in a way, it is exactly what you were talking about before. It is transcending who you are. Uh, by, um, uh, having the chief exchange between the limited you and the broader you, which is everything.

So, um, I, I can totally understand that, that without maybe even knowing what you were doing or why this had an effect on your consciousness, you did feel something because as you said, it was the intention to continue to keep, to keep you going. So there must have been something in the exercise that, that, that you.

Intuitively felt, now it's doing you good and it's a good path, right? Mm-hmm. Absolutely. And we started this conversation by saying, I didn't even know what the meaning of the word word consciousness was when I started that practice. I still didn't know what the meaning of consciousness was, but I was, now I know, I started to, to touch consciousness, to, to experience it too.

Um, and it is in hindsight that now I can tell you that, that that was my first big, um, yeah, mind blowing experience. But even then, I, I couldn't tell you. Oh, of course. This is just, uh, moving to a higher state of consciousness. I, I wouldn't have described it as that. But even now, when you told me about it, I could see that outbreak of joy when you spoke about it.

It's, it's nearly as if you, there was some euphoria about it. So, uh, it seems to me that you have, you, you had really discovered something new that wasn't part of your life before, where it was all about structure and logic. Uh, and now suddenly, uh, you've got these. Experiences there that yeah. Seem to happen, uh, uh, quite an emotional dimension to it because, uh, you've been opening up new doors for yourself and for life that before that just weren't present, right?

Absolutely. Yes. All right, so if you talk to your children today, How does it affect them, if I may ask? I mean, if it's not something you would like to talk about, don't do it. Uh, but no. Can you, can you see that it has an effect on how they go through their life as well?

Does it change because they are, they're probably maybe more open or more, uh, uh, uh, easier to, to show up their loving self. Um, uh, I'm just making it up now here because I couldn't imagine that this is, uh, an effect, but you tell me please. Can I tell you, um, um, an anecdote, an experience of one of 'em? Of course, of course.

It, it sums it up very beautifully, I think. Um, one, as I tell you, I'm a chemical engineering and then I have an MBA and I worked in business for 15 plus years. And, uh, so one of my, my kids friends, he. No, he was 17. He's 18 right now. Um, asked me, Gabby, why do you do this if you're an engineer, if you worked in business all your life, uh, if you love chemistry and biology, how come you are practicing?

What he asked me, what is Zhineng Qigong so I explained it. Very simply. And he said, it makes no sense to me that you among everybody are doing this. So we started having a conversation. I was kind of in a hurry. I left and then, and then I told Andre, my son, your friend was very inquisitive and uh, and, and, and he was telling me, uh, you're leaving the placebo effect.

And, uh, I don't buy this. And, uh. Well, that was a 10 minute conversation and I left and I told this to Andre and the next, and, and he said, mom, are you really talking about these things with my friends? Please don't. It's weird. It's, but then he left and the next day he came and he said, uh, this guy came to me and said, I spoke to you, to your mom about this and it makes no sense.

And this, this kid of mine, he is going to study. Um, biochemistry. He is very much into science. He's pretty rational and analytic, but, um, he has his mom, so he, all the time he is listening to what I say. And, uh, so this, the, this friend comes up and says, it makes no sense. And when Andrea told him, I asked him no, what.

What did you answer? And he said, I just told him, you don't know my mother, but I do. And my mother, she's intelligent, she's prepared, she has, um, a career to master's, a career. She's worked all her life and I respect her. And, uh, but you don't know her. She has, um, had a, a challenging life, uh, and, uh, he, she has encountered some difficulties.

Um, and this prepared woman. uh, didn't find all the answers either in science or in business or in her daily life as, as productive and as successful as it was. Uh, but since she started practicing the things that she does right now, her life and our changed we started living better.

And um, and that is my experience and that's what I can tell you. And if that's a placebo effect, so be it because a placebo effect, it's a, is a description of, um, of what's going on with us if you want to give it that name. But that's what happened to my mom when he said that. I, I said, okay, from the perspective of this kid who had.

This chemical engineer mom, working all day and know, uh, in the corporate life, uh, to what he has right now and in this years, how he has lived his life and how he perceives what's going on. Um, I wouldn't. I thought he would've give that, given that answer. No. Uh, right. But that's what he said.

And um, so that's pretty much what, how they leave it. And um,

he even told me, I still don't believe everything you said, but I haven't experienced it, mom. And, um, and everything. Of course, he, he gives the benefit of the doubt because what he says is, I look at you and I look at us, and it works. So there's something there. Uh, and probably I'm too young, but, uh, there's something there.

So. More or less, I think. I, I think it's, it's a, a wonderful story that you just shared because, uh, first of all, it shows what a gift it, it was that you gave to the whole family. And, um, and, uh, I had a, a conversation earlier today, um, with a Qigong teacher from Slovenia, and we were spoke speaking about, um, um, yeah.

Doesn't really matter, but, but the idea there was that, uh, people in your environment, even if they don't practice, um, they benefit from your work. I. And, uh, they, there's a part of them, even if they, they will be critical and skeptical about Zhineng Qigong and don't believe in it and so on and so on, but there's a part of a part of them that unconsciously consciousness picks up.

There is something about it that must be working. Because, yeah. That is based on the result, based on the experience they made with you. And I think this is something, um, that, uh, we, we leave in our environment because often we are frustrated. I'm not so much, I'm not talking about you now and your kids because they seem to be pretty, uh, uh, open and accepting towards it.

But often we have people in our environment that completely, um, uh, reject what we are doing in Zhineng Qigong. Mm-hmm. Uh, but even those people now, there's a part of them unconsciously that will recognize. There is some benefit in it. There is some, uh, something in it that creates value and that is beautiful, um, just through the way we show up when we practice and when we in the Zhineng Qigong

so even those people that reject and will frustrate us, because sometimes we want them to practice it because we know it would do them good, but even those people benefit from our practice. Um, and, uh, and, uh, yeah. Obviously in your, in your case at, at your children's, they're far more involved and, uh, that they're open to these things and can see what the, the change and the transformation has happened.

So I'm not talking about your children here. They're, they're wonderful and I think it's great. Um, uh, but I just wanted to make this point here, uh, because I know there are people at the other end of the spectrum, and still now I know that there's, there's something within them that benefits through my practice or your practice.

Um. So I think this is a great, uh, anecdote that you shared, uh, as a closing point here, and it makes me very happy. Mm-hmm. Uh, and I'm sure, yeah, you'll get a lot of love and Qi from our listeners today, uh, for what you have achieved here. So, congratulations Gabriela, and you very much for this conversation.

Uh, appreciate you taking the time out of your busy schedule. Uh. I'm also glad that you that yeah. That you've discovered all these, these tools for you and that you're sharing them with the people in your life and with your, with your students. Do you have a website?

I don't. You don't? I don't. Okay. So how can people get in touch with you if they want to talk to you or something? after being in social media for so many years, that day I started, I, I. I left work the corporate world. I closed all my social media. I don't have a website. So here's what we do.

Everybody who wants to stay in touch with you, just to re-listen to this podcast over and over and over again, that way they're in touch with you. And if anybody asks, you can give them. My information. I, I, okay, sure. Don't mind that. But, uh, but I don't have a website. I don't have an Instagram account. I just don't.

Okay. Very advanced. Very advanced. Thank you very much, Gabriela. Thank you very much. I love being here, Torsten. Thank you. 

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