International Documentary on Zhineng Qigong: Hidden In Plain Sight - Jeremy Colledge

Zhineng Qigong is not just a practice; it represents a profound journey towards healing and self-discovery. In today's Qigong podcast Jeremy Colledge sheds light on an upcoming Qigong documentary: Hidden in Plain Sight- Zhineng Qigong Documentary.

This documentary will feature interviews and insights from Qigong practitioners, teachers and masters: showcasing how Zhineng Qigong has changed lives, bringing stories from the famous Medicineless hospital: the Huaxia Centre in China and Dr Pang's teachings that have had a lasting impact on Qigong practitioners and students alike. By sharing these stories, the project seeks to build a vibrant community around Zhineng Qigong.

This documentary follows Jeremy's exploration of Zhineng Qigong, examining both its spiritual healing aspects and scientific implications. As eastern healing practices gain western attention, its principles align with quantum healing perspectives discussed by figures like Joe Dispenza and Bruce Lipton on mind-body consciousness and self-healing.

Support from the Zhineng Qigong community will aid in bringing this Qigong documentary to life in Jeremy's vision for this Qigong documentary as it not only funds production but also fosters a sense of shared purpose among practitioners worldwide - with one common goal: spread the story of Zhineng Qigong to the world.

Ultimately, this Qigong film is about more than just showcasing a practice; it's about creating a movement that brings people together through shared experiences and knowledge. Discussing contemporary scientific understanding and spiritual principles of healing - making it accessible to both skeptics and believers alike.

Mindful moments:

• Interviews with Masters: Hear from leading practitioners on their transformative experiences.
• Huaxia Centre: Explore the remarkable stories from the Medicine-less Hospital.
• Dr. Pang's Legacy: Learn how his teachings have impacted countless lives.
• Energy & Science: Delve into the science and spirituality of Zhineng Qigong.
• Community Power: Support this film through crowdfunding to bring it to life.
• Global Community: Unite Zhineng Qigong practitioners worldwide.

Links and Resources:
🌿 Indiegogo Fund: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/hidden-in-plain-sight-zhineng-qigong-documentary#/

🎥 Hidden in Plain Sight- Zhineng Qigong Documentary Trailer 1: https://youtu.be/R232IVAJJO0?si=B6lYTo0owW6Iyh2V

🎬 Hidden in Plain Sight- Zhineng Qigong Documentary Trailer 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0Qar4aLx8g

Jeremy's Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JeremyColledge/videos

📧 Email Jeremy: jem@quantumqigong.co.uk

🌐 Jeremy's website: https://quantumqigong.co.uk/

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Transcript

We have news for you. There is an exciting project on the way for a documentary on Zhineng Qigong. Not only is Jeremy Colledge a well known Zhineng Qigong teacher, he also has a successful background in producing for his own channel. This man is serious. Let's hear his plans and what he has achieved already.

My name is Torsten Lueddecke, and this is the Wisdom Qigong podcast. 

So welcome everyone. Today I've got Jeremy Colledge with me. Jeremy is well known in the community as a Zhineng Qigong teacher. He's been around for, I don't know, 15 years or something as a teacher, maybe Jeremy?

More. 25.

25 years, but today I've got him with me for a very different reason, because he approached me and said, look, Torsten, I would like to do a documentary about Zhineng Qigong, because there is nothing like it, produced in the West about what actually happened in the Huaxia Center and how the healing work works today.

And I said, well, Jeremy, what are your credentials? And he said, well, I started something called positive TV and it was long before YouTube even existed. And we had a huge following, like 250, 000 views a month. And we interviewed people like the Dalai Lama and presidents of countries. And I thought, wow, this guy is serious.

So let's hear what he has to say about the documentary plans. And Jeremy, maybe you would like to give us an idea of what you've got in mind there.

Wow. Yes. Well, thank you for the introduction, Torsten. That's great. What do I have in mind? It all came about, I was sitting with one of our teachers, teacher Liu, in a, a wonderful, retreat and the retreat, maybe there were 20 or 30 people there. I was looking around and I was thinking, gosh, this is priceless material.

How can it be possible that only 20 or 30 people are hearing this, you know, when I feel like it's life changing. And so I think I must've been looking a bit glum. And, one of my, one of my students said to me, why, you know, why the long face? And I said to her, well, you know, I think it's such quality material.

It's such a shame that we don't have many, many more people listening and, you know, learning about Zhineng Qigong. And you just said to me, what do you want to do about it? And I said, I think we need a documentary. And that's how it came about. So, as you say, I'd had this background with positive TV, just as, an idea, a next door neighbour and I had talked about, the state of world news, and from that, had been born a TV channel, which eventually became, as you say, a YouTube TV channel.

We were hoping we would eventually get onto a satellite channel, but then somebody mentioned to us that it was only quarter of a million pounds a month or something like that. So we kind of quashed that idea and went onto YouTube. But yes, we had some really, really extraordinary, interviews with amazing people.

And so, Along the way, I taught myself to, to interview, I taught myself to edit, I taught myself how to be a sound man. So I have the kind of the, the credibility, the, the, you know, the background tools to make a documentary. And, that was how this whole project began. We. Put a little bit of funding behind it.

We visited China a couple of times. We've, shot quite a lot of footage. And now we have a website and that website has got our short trailer and our long trailer, one that's three minutes and one that's 10 minutes, a bit of, information about who we are. And, the project is sitting ready to go.

So you're not just coming up here and saying, look, I've got a good idea because you know, many people have good ideas and they never bring it to life. You've actually started already and you've done your research. You went to China, you created some footage, like this is the starting point. So now you're just saying, okay, I want to make this bigger.

I want to make more of an impact. And I want to, you know, Add more content to it and then hopefully get it out to a huge audience worldwide because everybody deserves to know about, you know, what's happening with Zhineng Qigong, right?

Exactly. I absolutely believe that. And this is a great juncture just to stop and say thank you to the Zhineng Qigong Student Hub. I think you've done an amazing piece of work here. My colleague John Miller, and I tried to do exactly what you've done several times and never managed to get it. I think. in the Zhineng Qigong world, trying to bring people together is a bit like herding cats.

So you've done a very credible thing to make that happen. We thought that the idea was of spreading the word, was really, really important. I come across it again and again, and I'm sure everybody in the Zhineng Qigong world does, when people say to you, What do you do? And you say, Oh, I'm a Qigong teacher.

And they look at you like you've sneezed, or, you know, what was that word? And then you have to say, and so I've been very cheeky over the years. And I've developed a phrase where I say to people, Chinese yoga, and they go, Ah, I get it. And so Chinese yoga, you know, it really is a sort of a shortcut, because yoga has become so predominant.

And I think there's time for something new. And so Zhineng Qigong will clearly not You know, something new. It's been around for a long time, but, something new on the high streets of the, the Western world. And Zhineng Qigong, why shouldn't it be that? We all know how, how powerful it is. All the people here on, the viewers understand that.

But yeah, the project as such, we've decided to create a phased kind of version of it. And so, as you said, we got out there and the thing that brought us to a stop initially. Unsurprisingly, it was COVID that sort of stopped everything, stopped the whole world. We'd already been to China twice and shot lots of interviews, but we needed, we still need, much more of a spread around the world.

But, we looked at the project and thought, if we raise a small amount of money, well, I'm about to say a figure that anybody would be happy with to have in their bank account. If we raise 20, 000, and this is, the subject of this call is because we're starting our crowdfunding project. If we could raise 20, 000, we can finish this documentary completely, and it won't be the documentary I really, really want it to be, but we can still put an hour's worth of really interesting footage up on YouTube about Zhineng Qigong, which will be informative and interesting, and will have lots of interviews.

But, there's a bigger project behind this. In fact, there's an even bigger project behind that, and we can go to that in a moment. We Have, through our various film connections. We have a connection to Twickenham Studios, in London, which is a very famous studios where some of the James Bond films were made and, and various other things.

And, to a director who has made quite a few documentaries. And so we approached him and we said, what would it look like if we tried to make a, a really large scale documentary, that could go to the, the big companies like Netflix or Amazon. And so with him, we've created a business plan, which is seeing us raise over 450, 000, which is a really significant ask.

I say it's a significant ask, but I know, I mean, you've got, you know, tens of thousands of subscribers and if we could ask each one of them for ten dollars each, then, you know, things would already be starting to happen really well. But, yeah, so we have this much, much bigger project, which would see us Travel around the globe.

So, as many of your viewers will know, there's a huge community of, Zhineng Qigong players in Mexico, for example. I met a young guy called Diego in China this year. And Diego, has told me, in fact, We went to the third international qi science conference when we were there in China and Diego was one of the speakers at this conference and he announced to the conference that he hopes that by 2030 they will have between two and to three million zhineng qigong practitioners in Mexico alone.

And so he has very, very advanced plans to put that into into reality. They think they probably have something between 50 and 100, 000 at the moment. And so this is one of the key things that we noticed, of course, is that our trailers are currently both in English and we have subtitles in Spanish now.

Because there seems to be such a burgeoning Zhineng community in the, South of America as well. And then of course there's, we'd like to go to, to America. And we've got a few names that I could mention if you're interested. There are several European countries that we would travel to.

Keen to go to Switzerland, France, Germany, Italy, Spain to interview lots more people there, and then, of course, there are wonderful communities in Malaysia as well and, Australia, New Zealand. So this is quite an extensive, an extensive tour, especially if we're going to take with us a first class director and first class cameraman and sound person and etc, etc.

So you can imagine how a A small, budget of 20, 000 can be inflated to a budget of 460, 000 when you suddenly add to it teams around the world and travel budgets and things like that. So yeah, so it's a lovely idea is that it scales up and it scales down and whatever we can manage to raise will produce that will benefit the Zhineng Qigong community.

We have a way you can discover Qigong. At the Zhineng Qigong Student Hub, we know that understanding Qigong is very important. And also, that Zhineng Qigong in itself has various nuances that people can't easily comprehend. So we've approached it in the style of a video game. On this page, Discover Qigong, you can select your character. So you can either be a beginner, a practitioner, or a holistic healer or self healer, and you click on your character and it takes you to these different sections. In these sections, you can explore the nuances and when you click on a card, all of the resources pop up and we've made it really fun and not many people know about it. So if you are interested, have a look and discover Qigong.

Now, this is something that I really like about your approach. I it's, it's a great to dream big, and I'm thinking you've got a fair opportunity yet to make it big. So let's, you know, let's aim for that. But in any case, you're going to produce something of value. Now, we don't know whether this is going to be a, you know, like a, A low budget production, but that still brings the message across or a medium sized production, or whether it's going to be a big hit on Amazon or Netflix.

We don't know that, but in any case, it's going to be something of value that will support people, and we'll bring new people to the Zhineng Qigong world and have more people benefit from this incredible work that's been done all over the world. So this is what I love about it. So it's not an either it's going to work or it's not going to work.

We know it's going to work. We just don't know to what scale we can actually bring that, that project. Right now, when it comes to the content, I'm not sure how much you can share or willing to share or allow to share. how do you see this, this happening? So I get that you will visit, today's teachers, but how much is it going to go into the past?

You know, are you also gonna do, some, footage about how things used to be about the Huaxia Center, about, you know, how the whole thing developed? Are you looking at that as well? Or is it more about the recent work of Zhineng Qi Gong teachers and masters all over the world?

The script as it stands at the moment has an introduction which is, How did I discover Zhineng Qigong? And how did I discover Qigong? Because, the raison d'etre for me doing, Qigong was that I had a very toxic lifestyle. I worked in the city of London. too much drinking, smoking, late nights, stress.

Wow, such stress. And I had to find something that was going to, save my life effectively. And so I tried yoga, which I found great, but, you know, not really what I was looking for at that stage. Studied Tai Chi for two years. I really enjoyed that. Again, didn't quite seem to be it. And then when I discovered Qigong, it really felt like I'd come home.

It really felt like, you know, I'd finally found my place in the world. And on top of that, it helped me to build up the strength and the reserves to actually leave this toxic job. And I never believed I was going to be able to do it. But with the power of Qigong behind me, I was able to leave the city and instantly drop and drop into a new career, working in computers, actually, as it happens, all the time that I was working computers, my new found Qigong story ran alongside that I started my own classes.

Then I became a therapist and somehow actually, as a stranger side, I found that working and diagnosing computers was very similar to working and diagnosing humans. They have the same kind of. tree structure. If you can find out what the problem is, you work your way down to the root cause and then you can solve it.

And so, yeah, that was the, the, the bottom line was that, the film script starts with the brief description of how Zhineng Qigong saved my life.

Right.

And then we move on to, Move away from the sort of generality of Qigong, if you like, to the more specific Zhineng Qigong world. Because the story of the Medicine-less Hospital is a really, really powerful one.

We have some footage that we've taken from the various films on YouTube, and we have been asking around various other teachers, because I know that there were, there was actually a department run by Teacher Gao, who's one of my teachers, and Who actually made tons and tons of footage. So we're trying to find out how much of that still survives because it'd be lovely to be able to incorporate some of the older footage.

Then the next part of the story takes us through to current day teachers, as you say, around the world. And we wish then to, Spread the interviewing much wider because we have predominantly Chinese people, in our, in our current trailer who have made dramatic changes to their lives. And on that trailer, there's one lady who talks about her tumors on her thyroid, which just evaporated over a space of three weeks.

And we have many other lovely stories like that, that we picked up in, in China and our, in our travels. But now we'd like to speak to Western people because there is a tendency For people to think to themselves, Oh, this is something that only Chinese people can do as we know, it's not, you know, it's something that anybody can do.

And so, yeah, so that's the next phase is to is to then start putting some Western people on on tape and let and then I think eventually what we really want to do is to move towards the last third of the film, perhaps being about. I don't want to say more esoteric and more spiritual, although I think a lot of people see it that way.

But for me, there's an aspect. of Qigong that meshes perfectly with quantum science. I really like the way that quantum science thinking talks about, you know, the universe and the waves moving to particles and vice versa. And we talk about matter, you know, being turned back into non matter or being turned into matter.

Cancer tumors disappear and it's exactly the same process that people talk about when you take the information away from a Particle it turns back into a wave and so for me, you know, we can look at this on a much more scientific basis Although we all feel I think that there's a very spiritual side to our journey.

There's also a very practical side So I think we'd like to touch into that as well 

I just think it's funny that you start about talking about the more spiritual side and then you move straight to science. Because for me, now what we call spiritual science is actually all very, very simple to explain. For me, Zhineng Qi Gong is not some airy fairy, miracle, thing.

It is, you know, deep down, it makes total sense. So even the logical mind can understand why Zhineng Qi Gong works so well. And for me, that is also one of the powerful messages that if I would do a documentary, I would like to get across. So it's not just another, you know, of these movies that promises, all kinds of wonders.

If you just do certain things, right. It is actually, you know, that's why they call it Qi science. Yeah, it is. There is some, there are scientific thoughts behind it. They all make total sense. If you get down to the basics, everybody can nod and say, okay, now I get why Zhineng Qigong works so well. And I would love to see that incorporated in a documentary.

So, so that it's not just for the airy fairy people, but you know, basically for everyone. And that would be great if you can, you know, if that could be part of what you're doing here.

Yeah. Dr. Pang, you know, his, his watch words in this are, it has to be safe. It has to be repeatable and it has to be easy to learn. And we all know that that is, you know, the case of the Zhineng Qigong. And so, the science that, Dr. Pang used in the medicine less hospital fascinates me. I don't know if you know the stories about them.

Testing, adding Qi to structural concrete, and you can reinforce the strength of structural concrete by 30 percent. They could increase the yield of rice crops, a certain rice crop, by 42 percent. And so those are things that are really tangible. Imagine the ability to, you know, almost double the harvest, and how that would help for, you know, world hunger.

And, rather than asking one of these large, pharmaceutical u big pharma, you know, if you know what I mean, agricultural companies, you know, just to add some more terrible chemicals to it. Now we're talking about qigong practitioners helping the harvest. And I think that's a really, really nice idea.

So yes, the chief science is very, very important.

Is that the script basically? Is that the story?

There's a, there's another little bit to it, which is that, when we looked at this kind of Western side of things as it were, and, how do we make, how do we help, Western people engage with this more easily, as it does for us? on the face of it look like Eastern esoteric, you know, arts.

And so from my days at Positive TV, I, I've made some very, very good connections in the spiritual and science world. And there are quite a few people who are trying to break these kinds of boundaries as well. And so many of your viewers will have come across an American guy called Joe Dispenza. he's, often find paired up with Greg Brayden and Lynn McTaggart, who's a friend of mine as well. And so there are some of these, Bruce Lipton was the other person I was looking for. So we have connections to, to go to, certainly to Bruce Lipton and to Greg Brayden, both of whom are scientists. who work in this kind of field and who are talking about energy from a western perspective.

However, what they're talking about perfectly, perfectly knits with what we know as zhineng qigong science. And so what we're hoping to do is to be able To bring those people into the documentary as well and ask them to give their, Western perspective on this Eastern art so that we can perhaps, simplify it, I suppose, for people and, and show that it is not something, you know, it's Woo woo that actually, you know, it really, really genuinely can be thought of as science from a Western perspective as well.

Unfortunately, Western scientists tend to, well, if it's not chemical based or it's not something you can make a lot of money from, our Western scientists friends tend not to be very, assiduous at testing it as such. So very nice to have, you know, much more of a scientific program behind from a Western perspective as well as the kind of work they're doing in Xi'an where they're And, I believe he was saying Master Liu as well.

He's also working from a scientific perspective.

Yes, absolutely. And so you're suggesting here that, you know, the thoughts of a like of the likes of Jodie Spencer or Bruce Lipton or Lynne McTaggart is very much aligned with the fundamental ideas of zhineng qigong because, you know, more people know these people, these people and their work than actually know Zhineng qigong

so this is a great bridge to, to reach people that already are open to the, to the ideas and the thoughts, only they might not know how beneficial they, the tools are of qigong, because it is a bit as if, you know, what. Greg Brayden and Joe Dispenza say, and that's wonderful. And here's the toolkit, Zhineng Qigong, right?

So here are the exercises you can do. And because that's something that's probably lacking. I mean, I don't know enough about their work. But, yeah, I, I would assume that when it comes to actual exercises, Zhineng Qigong has a lot to offer to, to people that love the ideas of Joe Dispenza.

Torsten, I think you've hit the nail on the head, and I, I'm treading into sort of delicate here when I say, when I bring down the whole of Buddhism with one comment, but I also, you know, look at something like Buddhism where you have nothing but meditation, or, or many of the styles have nothing but meditation, because there are also Buddhist styles of qigong.

So we have to say that but you know something that's based entirely on the mind And I think an awful lot of the work that these guys, you know, Joe Dispenza and Greg Braden are doing again Based on, you know, the mind and I think it is interesting because when I first started doing Zhineng qigong Okay, so just to put the timeline correct on on that.

I started studying myself 35 years ago 34 years ago Something like that. I only started teaching 25 years ago. I only discovered zhineng qigong probably maybe 15 or so 15 years ago, but yeah right very back at the very beginning People would say, you know, 50 percent of all problems are in your mind.

And now if you listen to Joe Dispenza talking, he'll say 95 percent of all problems in your mind. So, you know, whether that's the case, he certainly says it because it fits his work. I'm not sure, perhaps, let's say, 80 percent of all problems are in your mind. But that still leaves a very large part of the work that needs to be done on the body.

And I don't think those guys address it. So I think that also, Zhineng Qigong is perfectly placed to mesh with Western spiritual, Western science. Western medicine it fits so nicely with all of those things and the other thing that that you know that I like so much about Zhineng is that it doesn't challenge anybody's religion either.

So it doesn't matter if you're a Christian or a Muslim or anything You know, we don't ask you to believe anything apart from the fact that you can heal yourself Which I don't know. Maybe that's a problem, but I don't think so But I think that that's it. You know, for me, it's an incredibly powerful tool that adds so much to all of these, other things.

It, you know, augments everybody else's ideas.

I couldn't agree more. And, in particular, because I also see a tendency in, Zhineng Qi Gong, these days with a lot of the teachers, to shift the focus purely towards consciousness. Now, I don't want to disregard consciousness because, you know, it is the key. And there are ways to, to get there that can be physical and that can approach the whole consciousness from a different angle because not everybody is very good at just calming their mind.

Some of us, you know, doing quite well if they do a great lift qi up and use that as a vehicle, to get to that state. And, to activate the self healing. So I don't think it's, yeah, I'm just observing it that, even in our world, Zhineng Qigong, a lot of focus goes to consciousness, which is great, because Qigong isn't Zhineng Qigong isn't. It's, it's, it's not a sport, right? Where you just go out and do your exercise. It's obviously something very different. But there's a reason why, Dr. Pang, you know, did all these exercises. And if you look at the Medicine less hospital, the Huaxia center, this is what they did eight hours a day. They did exercises.

So, let's get the balance right here. and this is, you know, where, we can bring something into the world that is quite simple because the exercises aren't difficult. Everybody can learn them. And we can bring something and add something to the work that other people are doing that is more consciousness based, like, you know, , uh, Joe Dispenza, for example.

So that's what I love about, Zhineng Qigong, because it's just gives us one more route, to get to where everybody seems to be adding towards.

I agree with you. Yes, I think that last, well, in my lifetime, the trend has been moving from the physical to the, to the mental as it were. And certainly when I started studying first off, I started studying just standing Qigong with a master called Master Lam. And I used to say to him, you know, Why do we do this?

And he said, just do it. Don't ask questions, you know, and so many Chinese masters. I mean that, and when I say just do it, don't ask questions, that is about all he ever said to me over the space of about two years, literally all the instruction I ever got. Just do it. Don't ask questions. certainly nobody was talking about consciousness at that stage. And I think that, you know, the, the sort of spiritual revolution was beginning, you know, I suppose, obviously in the sort of sixties and seventies, we were sort of, you know, I don't know, people taking LSD and kind of discovering consciousness, but it was still in the sort of the esoteric field.

And then by about maybe the 80s, 90s, people were starting to think of this as being more commonplace and being a subject that we could actually, start to research as well that, you know, would have its own field. And that is mirrored entirely in what's happened in Qigong. So to begin with, it was just a physical exercise and I was told that I was learning it because one day I could turn it into a martial art.

I said, okay, fair enough, you know, I'll try that. And it was only, in the early 2000s that I discovered medical qigong and that's, been studied in the universities in China since about the 1970s, 1980s. And I think Dr. Pang was probably, part of building medical qigong. Most qigong people in China were, or high level qigong people were.

And so, I started studying that as a therapy. And, You tend to find then that what has happened is that the many spiritual arms of Qigong in China had had their spirituality gently removed from the top, shall we say, because of course, in, in China, you know, there's nobody higher than the government and, and that's the important part for them.

And so a lot of that had been changed, you know, had, had just been disregarded, let's say. It has become a very, very technical device. And that is the beauty of it, because they were able to look at the exercises and say, Hey, This is why this works. This is why this one doesn't work so well. Select an incredible set of exercises, and I have some enormous tome somewhere about this thick that has, you know, all of the different types of exercises that they selected to teach at the universities, and why they were good, and what they did, and so forth.

And out of that comes Zhineng Qigong. But it's quite clear that Dr. Pang has Gone very deeply on his own spiritual journey and from that he's evolved these things And the whole study of consciousness was evolving at the same place. And I suspect that he was pushing it forward as much as anybody.

And so now we've moved in my lifetime from this kind of, it's only physical to now, as you say, perhaps it's got to, it's only mental. And perhaps we have to swing back to the middle as, you know, often happens with these pendulum swings that we shouldn't forget that the physical. But I think that's it. You know, I think in zhineng qigong, we have such a lovely balance of both of those things and if you think back to, to your starting point, everybody starts, 90 percent of people start just by doing exercises.

You know, it's just bit by bit you start to think, ah, there's more to this than meets the eye. You know, as your teacher slowly drip feeds some new information in, but yeah, we always start with the physical. So, you know, that's the natural progression for us for each person, but it also seems a natural progression for Qigong over the years as well.

Right. So I can see there's plenty to put into your documentary. You might have to turn it into a series at the end of the day. It's not going to be just one movie, but, you know, this is a great project. Jeremy and, we from the Qigong students have, we will follow you in the next month and years, depending on how long it takes.

So we will regularly report on the progress you make. On what's happening so that our listeners and our viewers and our community is informed about this project because I think it's something that's close to all of our hearts because everybody's listening here has probably benefited from Zhineng Qigong one way or another, otherwise they wouldn't be here.

So this is a great way of giving back and, and making it. approachable for other people that don't know it yet. So I think this is a cause that we can all subscribe to. So, we will obviously link your page, in the notes, in the show notes here, and we will continue to report about what you're doing.

And you said you've started this crowdfunding platform. So you're going to encourage people to support this wonderful project and, and yeah, and continue to observe what you're doing and watch what you're doing by staying tuned into what we are saying, reporting here, and the students have an hour newsletter.

So there will be regular updates about how the documentary is coming along.

Well, that's it. Yes, we hope, as you say, lots of material and, you know, it's possible that if somebody like Netflix were to be interested that we might cut it into four or five shows. One of the crazy ideas was actually to have a month long retreat and follow people and to see how they get along and actually film their stories.

So yes, who knows how the project will turn out. And yeah, and that's my appeal to, to all the people who've come this far on the podcast with us. If you can find some way to support this documentary, we would really, really appreciate your help. We have an Indiegogo crowdfund. And as you said, Torsten, you're going to link that.

That would be amazing. And thank you yourself, Torsten. That's been really good to talk to you as well.

Thank you very much, Jeremy. Good luck with the project. And we talk soon to see how far you've come already.

Yeah, we'll send you some good news.

Okay, good. Thank you.

Thanks.

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