How David Ho Healed Macular Degeneration with Qigong

David Ho’s life took an unexpected turn when he was faced with a health crisis, after collapsing and blacked out on a bathroom floor. Doctors told him that it was just because he was ill, but David doubted the diagnosis. He started noticing an eye floater and it was revealed that he had macular degeneration. In today’s Qigong podcast, we explore how an incurable eye disease, according to western medicine, was completely healed by consistent and disciplined Zhineng Qigong practice.

A diagnosis like this is always alarming, though David began to seek alternative methods to heal eye disease, motivated by an intention and desire to regain his eye health and improve his vision. The Qigong practice became central to David’s recovery to improve his eye sight naturally. He practiced Qigong for his eye health, with Zhineng Qigong exercises like "Lift Qi Up" and "Pour Qi Down," and Three Centers Merge which helped him focus on restoring his ocular health. He visited his optician for follow-up scans & revealed a remarkable recovery in his vision. This recovery highlighted the power of intention and discipline in achieving health goals in Zhineng Qigong.

Using Qigong for eye health, David enhanced his eye care to maintain healthy vision. A Qigong practitioner himself he now teaches people how to empower their own well being and is focused on Qigong for improved eyesight. Highlighting that a positive mindset is essential for healing. Changing information from the diagnosis is a crucial concept of Zhineng Qigong the idea that one can change the information in their body through consistent practice and clear intention. David teaches many people, with Zhineng Qigong,  to reclaim control over their health and lead a balanced life.

Mindful moments:

• Macular Degeneration Reversal: David Ho overcomes macular degeneration with Zhineng Qigong, defying medical prognosis.
• Crisis and Discovery: A health scare leads David to explore alternative healing, specifically Zhineng Qigong.
• Qigong for Eye Health: Learn key exercises like "Lift Qi Up" and "Pour Qi Down" that aided David's recovery.
• Intention and Discipline: A core principle in Qigong for achieving health goals.
• Empowerment Through Qigong: David helps others reclaim health and balance through Qigong teachings.

Links and Resources:
David’s email: davidrho1963@gmail.com
David’s Website: https://www.clear-sight-clear-mind.co.uk/
La Qi Method E-learning Course: https://t.ly/iHe79
Mingmu Method for better eye sight: https://www.zhineng-qigong-students-hub.com/product/dong-mingmu-method-e-book/
Strengthen your eyesight with Qigong: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8rIeFOTsnM
Qigong Saved My Eyesight Richard Clegg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbPrEmothmY
Discover Qigong Game: https://tinyurl.com/ym

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Transcript

Coming from an engineering background and being well known for his logical mind, David Ho's world was turned upside down when he found himself lying on the bathroom floor of his hotel room and later being diagnosed with macular degeneration. Exploring a new world of energy healing, he repaired his vision and got his life back on track.

Here is what he has to share. My name is Torsten Lueddecke, and this is the Wisdom Qigong Podcast.

David is a Qigong teacher based in England. , he offers trainings,  person to person, but also on Zoom, which can be very exciting because his speciality is actually You know, the eye at the health of the eye, , and you've got a story to tell.

So I think David, you should just, you know, jump in and let us know about yourself and, you know, your story with Zhineng Qigong, please.

life was, you busy as it is with everybody else. You I thought I was perfectly healthy.

I'd been a runner most of my life. And, , I go back to there was an event in 2016 that,  That's a bit of a watershed moment for me.  as I said, I've been very healthy, I thought.  I've been spending, spent most of my working life living away from home during the week. So it's week commuting stuff.  the week before something happened, I thought, yeah, I'll go for a run one evening.  did 10 miles, so about 16K, wasn't fast, but, you know, for your age, that's okay. , and then this evening, I just, I woke up and found myself on the bathroom floor in a hotel, feeling pretty well, to be perfectly honest. And then I was, I was a bit ill, , and it didn't really improve to the point I ended up going home the next day and,  a friend's wife was a consultant who heard about it, talked about the symptoms and asked my wife to ring for an ambulance, basically.

So I ended up in intensive care for two weeks and,  , my blood sodium level had dropped to a critical level. The, , unbeknownst to me, the consultant said to my wife, well, It'll either brain damage or he'll die, but, , somehow I chose a different option and that came through at the end of it. They kind of went, you're fine now you're discharged and went, okay, so what caused it?  the nod a little bit. So, oh, well, you know, you were, you were sick and then, you know, violent sick, so that would reduce your blood salts. And I thought, okay. Even in my muddled state that didn't work for my process head because I was rather ill after I found myself on the floor. So there was a question of doubt going on in my head. And then, I, as a result of this being in hospital, I I developed a problem in my right eye. When I came out, I kind of had like a watermark in my right eye. Which is pretty irritating and made it really difficult. You couldn't really drive at night because any car headlight was a big flare going off. So when I went to see my optician for it.

It's usually in the annual eye check. He's, , okay. You've got a macular degeneration in your right eye, what does that involve? Okay, well the back end of your eye, the layer's kind of all puffed up, so the macula, a dip down a focal point through your eye, that's now become quite fat and it's not precise.

And when you compare the two eyes, the left one's really clear, the right one's not so clever. I said, okay, and  so what's that mean? Well, he said, well, it's dry, so it's good. Because it's not critical,  but you should really keep an eye on how your eye progresses. So he said, right now you can probably still see straight lines and you print out a grid, you can see the line.

He says, in time it'll fade, become kind of a bit wiggly, and then,  over time it'll just get worse and it'll probably, Vision will start contracting,  there's not much you can worry about because that's the way it is. And,  yeah, believe it or not, Macular degeneration is very common as you get older. and I guess I was Early fifties at the time.

So more from sort of seventies, eighties onwards. Like, I mean, it's basically when I've looked it up by the time you get to your nineties, it's kind of like one in three or one in five, we'll have it, , it's just a bit premature and, , not very helpful to, you know, if you want to use your sight and stuff, so. I kind of thought I don't really want this, , in the meantime, for a number of reasons.  I wanted to try and find a different practice from running cause I'm trying to give up running now. And,  I remember my mother used to do Tai Chi when I was very young and actually when she got, she got a bit older. I thought, well, that kind of looked like some kind of movement and, family wise, I'm originally from Hong Kong, about 50 years ago now, but,  you know, so that whole Asian culture has some resonance, although I've never been very close to it. And we went around looking for somewhere to learn Tai Chi or Qigong.

My wife said, actually, Qigong sounds really interesting from, from what she knows. So she's also in the sort of energy healing business. And they do bioresonance. and we tried to find someone locally, wasn't terribly successful. There were some that purported to do Tai Chi and Qigong and basically did one movement and there was lots of Tai Chi and stuff, so it really wasn't out of the bag.

so I ended up learning some stuff online and of course, the internet being what it is, you can get a cornucopia of useful stuff out there. but I just felt I wanted to do it with people, just get some interaction and get some feedback.  so after much ado, we first introduced me to a person, to another person, and I eventually ended up talking to Britta.

And as I said, that's where the story really began. Having,  done some body and mind, I think originally it was called body and mind, one of the workshops online, it really resonated with me, and I liked the practice. So I was still in that sort of practice, do stuff, and then worry about anything else.

So I was much more interested in, , just the exercise to start with, because that appealed. 

David, I would challenge when you say, this is really where the story began. Because if I listened, when I listened to you, the story began earlier in my mind, , when the doctor said to you, well, there's nothing we can do. And you, in your typical British understatement said, well, I don't really want that.

 I think this is already a Qigong state, , to transform information, to say, I don't accept this information. And I think this is probably where the journey started. And then you found Britta and the Qigong online course, and you found a tool to make, to turn this into a reality. So I just thought I'd mention this.

Because I think it's very important, , for people, for listeners to understand that this is the first step, not to accept the information, the negative information, , but to say, okay, that might be what, you know, doctors are telling me, or the people in my life are telling me, but it's not my path. That's not what I want for me.

So sorry for the interruption, but yeah, go on

I, I stand corrected and you're quite right, Torsten. So, I'm reminded of, one of my appraisals when I was in the military, which said, David is quite petulant. I don't know, actually I think petulance in the right context can be really helpful. So we are, we are taught things, or led to believe stuff, which doesn't necessarily really ring true.

It is entirely pending on the frame of reference of as we describe it, like the context of how we see the world, and, we may not have to, we don't have to agree with everything we are told. Especially if it's something relating to, you know, your own health and well being. Because there's only one person that it deeply affects.

That's the person in the mirror. Everybody else, it's just, okay, it's useful. I mean, what we've learned in this journey is having diagnoses from various things, it's great. Actually, it just tells me what I can work on and, , that's, that's a good way of positioning yourself in life and not the,  defeatist of the term that comes to my mind, but that's probably not really the right, sort of.

Don't allow the negative to rule your life because it doesn't have to be that way and To go back to the story with this zhineng qigong, I really got into the habit of practicing and As you may well realize having a discipline background actually doing things in the discipline way comes relatively easy to me I just changed my schedule.

So I started to get up at five in the morning to do an hour or two of Qigong every day. so round about just before COVID time, my eye scan in my right eye said I'd lost about 40 percent of the peripheral vision. And,  with the blessing of COVID, we did lots of training online and practice. Two years later, I went back for my scan.

It was back to 100%. So, you know, the lots of people would say, Oh, well, that couldn't happen. Maybe not for somebody else, but it has done for me. And that's so important because we've come across so many other people who, when you get your mindset correct and work on what you need to work on, having understood some basic principles, amazing recoveries happen.

So in short, I think that's been a real gift understanding this. The start point is to don't necessarily believe everything we're led to believe and look to change things. If your intention is clear, strange things really happen, which I guess we come across quite a few times, right?

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That is the point that I wanted to make. I, you're taking the words out of my mouth here, because usually when we listen to a story like this, that, that you've recovered from, , 40% to a hundred percent. , people say, wow, this is like a miracle, but it doesn't happen very often. Now, the truth is that in our environment, if we meet other Zhineng qigong practitioner.

Many of them have stories like this to tell. So it's not so uncommon. It happens a lot, and there's a reason why it happens. And I think one of the reasons, I'm not saying it's the only one, but one of the reasons that you pointed out is discipline in your practice. because so many people, they look at their daily schedule and they say, it's impossible to practice two hours or three hours.

How would I do this? And you said, Oh, I simply look at my schedule and I change things around. And I got up earlier and there were my two hours of practice, or I don't know how long you did. Practice in the morning. , but this obviously makes a difference because that is the idea of zhineng qi gong, that you, that you use these tools, , but you do have to practice because otherwise not much is happening unless your consciousness is extremely evolved and you can just do it through your consciousness.

, but, , I think this is an important point, why it's not just about listening to this podcast and say, well, I wish I That would happen to me as well. You have been very active to achieve that. And, , so I think it's, it's, it's, , important to look into this a little bit more in detail, maybe, , to explain to people, what have you done?

, what was your mindset at the time?  how did you experience things so that people, you know, have a root that they could inspire them. They don't have to take the same route, but it can be inspiring and give them ideas of how they can deal with their challenges.

Yeah, I mean, the way I kind of looked at it is,  you know, it's taken a lifetime to get me to this precarious spot. So, you know, we talk about, imagine, , imagine I was a barrel of qi, let's say, you know, you were born with so much and it's been dribbling away for most of my life and I've done stuff that depletes it.

It's, it's really unreasonable to think you're going to change that overnight. So, so logically in my head is, okay, I now understand something about my three dantians. They're, they're clearly depleted because things have gone wrong. So, first step is, you have to practice to top it up. And,  Lift Qi Up, Pour Qi Down, a fantastic practice, and 3Center Merge.

So, I basically did that for two years. So get up in the morning, when it's nice and quiet, out the way. And it didn't really matter if I was, you know, in a hotel somewhere or back at home. I could do that. And spend that time. Everything's totally quiet. It's easier, for me anyway, first thing in the morning, because all your thinking stuff, it's gone quiet from the night before.

It hasn't started up again. It's easy to concentrate. And if your mind drifts off a bit, that's fine. You'll come back. But don't be harsh on yourself. And just do the practice. Spend the time focusing inside ourselves as against worrying about anything that's happening around you and just the whole giving yourself permission to spend time on yourself, I think for me made a huge difference. And it was really, if I think back now, really basic, very, you know, almost mechanistic with a intention of doing something about my condition and that really helped. So, you know, getting up early worked for me, so I basically do about an hour, maybe a bit more in the morning and then get into the humdrum of the day.

And then in the evening, I mean, after a while, I learned body and mind, which I really liked. So in the evening, I do body and mind. And that's actually still pretty much my routine. I'll do some stuff in the evening. I'll do a body in mind, but it's just, , it's developing a new habit, same habit as you have when you brush your teeth, comb your hair or whatever it is.

It just comes normal and natural.  that helps you develop this habit of a, I am spending time on myself, being, I'm connecting to all my parts. I'm making my intention come true. But then it's just enhancing your ability to learn, because when you first do practice, you know, it's kind of mechanical, I just do stuff.

And, You know, I'd never really, I've never thought myself to be sensitive, and when my wife talked about Qi and stuff, and you know, gathering years ago, I thought, well, I don't feel anything. I don't really get it. But actually, suddenly with practice, when I now no longer have to think about the mechanics, that I suddenly realize, well actually I feel a whole lot of things happening.

I can feel something pulsating between my hands. And, you know, if you do La Qi and send it into your eyes, it's a lovely feeling as it permeates all the way through, only comes with practice and you don't have to start believing everything when you start to feel it in my case. It's hard not to believe that something's happening and that's the real big change, right?

Because I can demonstrate to myself that something that is outside my norm could actually be quite normal So when I want to do introduction sessions of people We always start quite early on with a an exercise to demonstrate the power of your conscious mind to be Change shape your hand and it's going to 80 percent people have done, have done it successfully.

And a very important one data point that says, you know what, crikey, I could do something like this because we all can. , the great shame is we all can, but so few people have had the opportunity to understand that and experience it. Because. It doesn't have to be Zhineng Qigong could be whatever, Reiki, whatever.

Some, you know, people will benefit from that if we learn how to, , make use of the learnings that have been around for thousands of years. When life was a bit simpler. Life is clearly a very complicated today. Doesn't mean you can't stop it for a moment to look after yourself.

I think that's an important point that you're making there when you mention it's been around for thousands of years or the ideas have been around for thousands of years. So this is not something you or somebody suddenly came up with. Yes, it has been refined and it's now, you know, obviously at a high, higher level than maybe it used to be, but it's been successful for thousands of years.

That is the reason why it's still around. If it would have never worked, you know, it would be there. So, I think this is in itself a very logic idea to understand that And then when you explain that the moment it really hits you is when you start to feel things. When you start, okay, well, there is something that feels like, Qi, there is something moving.

 you know, that is when the trust comes in. So you're not necessarily asking people believe in something that you haven't experienced. Everybody has an opportunity to, to, , get their own experience. And then they say, wow, if I can feel that, well, maybe what else is possible.  But in addition to that, I want to go back a little further, , to something else you said, because I think it could be key to many people.

Because the question is,  you know, practicing two hours in the morning, one hour in the evening, and what is my mindset when I'm doing that? Is it like a have to? Do I feel like, oh my god, now I have to do my exercise? Or is my mindset, and I'm quoting you, where you said, okay, I realized I am important and I spent this time on me because, you know, I matter and I'm important.

And this gives the whole training and the whole discipline a completely different context and feel. Because you're not doing it because you have to. It's really because you value. who you are and you value your health and you value, , , everything about you. And I think this is so powerful because it's also a message to the unconscious mind who actually does all the healing.

So it's kind of the conscious mind initiates it, but the unconscious, it has to do all the bodily functions to create the healing. So the unconscious mind at one point has to understand, I am important. My health matters. And if you get that across, then the unconscious mind will say, wow, this guy is serious.

I'll better, you know, get my job done here and create my health. , if you don't have this, this mindset and it's, it's a must do, and some teacher told you the unconscious things, you know, what the heck basically,  but to, to, to be in the state of, okay, this is for me, this is about my time. It's so difficult for many people because yeah, they don't value themselves.

, but I think that could also have made a key difference. , in your success and, , , while you're sitting in front of me today and are healthy and happy and, , , with all the beautiful things that you're doing in your life. So that's why I thought it, I'll come back to this. I'm sorry for jumping, ,

but I didn't want to miss that point because, , you said it so, so nicely, and I want to make sure our listeners hear that message, right?

Yeah, you know, like anybody else, I have good days and bad. There's some days when it's really easy to practice and there's some days that's just, oh, I'm not sure I really can be bothered. What I have found is that actually on the days when you can't be bothered, when you do straight your self up and do a practice, it makes a huge difference.

It's, it's funny.  quite obvious really, in some respects, you know, if I'm, , if I'm depleted, My emotions are a bit out of whack. I'm probably going to go meh. Don't really want to do this. Well actually that is just a time when I should be doing it.  so, it, it's, in some ways, it's a self fulfilling prophecy.

We know what's good for us. We know what we can do. We've been given some tools. We just need to practice it. And it's sometimes quite difficult to remember. All the great things we've learned. I mean, there was a couple of years ago, I was doing some work in a garden and,  I managed to put the little thorn into my little finger.

Didn't really realize it much.  and then it got a bit sore during the day and then it really got very sore and it spread to my whole hand. And, but when I. I was trying to go to bed, it had gone up to my elbow and was showing no sign of stopping and I thought, well, there's no way I'm going to sleep. And I thought, oh, maybe I'll go and take an aspirin or something. And then somewhere in the back of my head, I heard Master Liu's voice talk about left right meditation. And I thought, there's a tool there, just use it. And it literally took no more than five minutes. It all went away. And I went to sleep, you know. We, we are, we've learned these great tools. But often we forget to use them because I could have saved myself about six hours of pain if I'd done it much earlier on.

So,  being conscious of ourselves, we also need to be conscious of what we're capable of. Because it's easy to get in the humdrum of the day. 

does your, your story continue your Qigong journey? So what else did you explore?

so having decided to, learn how to do this properly, That's why I thought work out sign up to be a therapist, not really thinking I'd actually really look to put it into practice. I mean, as the old adage, and then the military are very good at that. You know, then you want to be good at saying, go teach it.

So learn to teach it. But actually in this journey, it's been so amazing.  I'm quite fortunate in that where I work, huge organization.  I happened to talk to one of communications,  people one day. So I'll just been doing this course in Cyprus and it's been really great. And she said, wow, that's amazing.

We're, We're doing a wellbeing month for this organization. Would you like to do something? Okay. so we arranged to do some introductory workshops on zoom just to show people what you can do and, , attendance is variable because it's going to work and stuff, but I a dozen people that regularly turn up and some of their improvements are just amazing.

And it really reinforces my belief that if we learn how to do some stuff, we can really help ourselves and, and I, my preference is not to give people healing, if I'm really honest, I want people to learn how to help themselves and if they really need it, I'll, I'll do a bit of a healing for you, but it is a bit reluctant because I think fundamentally we should, , harness our capability and learn, and I'll give you two examples, a young man in his twenties, I think, , he was slightly prone to being, having bad days and being ill, and I didn't really think much about it.

 and then one day he kind of told me that he, he basically, he's got MS. He didn't want to talk about it, he didn't want any of us to know about it, but he just wanted me to know given that he'd been doing this practice with me. But he was very determined, very determined to change his outcome. And, , he religiously did pour qi up, pour qi down every day. And, slowly, he got less unwell. And then, about, I think about seven, no, it's now January, about nine months ago, we had a conversation. He's since moved to a different place. For And he said, I've just had my annual scan and it's clear he had changed his life, right? His MS had been defeated and he still practices now because I said, well, you need to stay on top of it.

So anytime we really, you know, anytime he has an issue is that his practices lapsed a bit, then we'll go and do some refreshment. I might give him a little bit help, but he's back on track. So that's, you know, that's just a person who realizes. Their own capability and refuses to believe his diagnosis and wants to do something different. there's a lady who when we first met had really bad arthritis through some event or another. She didn't really move.  but she really resonated with the first introductory session. And,  when we got to these weekly sessions, she learned pour qi up, pour qi down and was very, very disciplined every day.

Very clear. She wants you to do something different, but intention was it, you know, she wanted to dance again, really good, long sighted intention. And every week. Every week up was like an amazing journey of her improving herself. So initially, she could not put her hands on her feet during the whole lift qi up, pour qi down. , a couple of weeks in she said, yeah, I can easily do that now.  she lives where she has to take a bus to a train station to get into work. And, , a few months into this,  she was very excited when we met up on a Thursday evening and said, you won't believe this, right? She took the bus to the train station this morning and for whatever reason the train was cancelled.  and she thought, you know what? I'm not going to wait for the bus. And she walked home, which was about, which was about a mile, 1. 6 kilometers, right? Over the moon with herself. And actually, you know, it's just. And you can see the person glowing inside and it's continued, she continues to diligently practice and improves all the time, and to a point, once she was telling me she found herself running for the trains, Wow, it's just the same person a year on all because she has that intention We've just given her a wee tool or two and she just practiced it knowing it makes a big difference to herself So, I mean that had made I mean those and they're not the only people but those two really stand out to me As in this quite a long journey of mine, of learning to become a therapist, it's been so, you know, so heartwarming to see people.

And I just want to try and encourage more and more people to understand their own capability and go and help themselves.

And when you learn to help yourself, go help some other people. Because if we, if we all cause that sort of ripple effect outwards of just helping the world get better and get people to, you know, get better.

Be more comfortable in their own skin, not react to every bombardment of negativity that we receive 24 7. Actually, I think it would just be better all around. It would be better for people. And every time we help someone else, as you well know, we benefit from it too. Because Yeah, where the Qi flows and where your mind goes, if your mind is positive, you will bring positive energy back into yourself from other places.

And that is something that you said before we started the podcast actually, , that you feel that it is important, , to, to introduce the practice to other people so they can use it if they want to. Now, if nobody does that and we just keep it for ourselves,  we're not making much of an impact other than in our own life, but by simply Showing up by having the courage also to offer courses because you know, a lot of people I know that have, that are doing fabulous work for themselves, they feel like, Oh, I don't have the skill sets to teach others and stuff like that.

But it's, it's nonsense. I mean, if you, if one person in your group, you know, has a result like this, it was all worth it. So, , even, even though, you know, you might not have a 25 year old, a 35 year education in Zhineng Qigong, but, , you have your experience and you have something to, to show people and you have something to teach people.

 it's, it's important to step up and to say, okay, here's what I can offer. And then, , I love also the way you, you encourage people, , to take responsibilities for themselves. And to say, here are your tools, if you have a clear intention, and it seems that the people that you mentioned there, you know, they had a clear intention, a clear commitment towards their health and their lives, and they take it up, and they do with it whatever they do, and then you see them six months later, nine months later, and you hear all these wonderful stories.

So I think this is a great way. And then the courage spent to all the listeners out there who have been successful with Zhineng Qigong to say, well, don't be shy to share it with your, you don't even have to offer courses. You know, just share it with your family, with your friends. If you've got someone in your environment who struggles, you know, show them an exercise here or there.

And, , it can already make a difference in somebody else's life. So, , I'm glad you, you, you mentioned this here towards the end of our podcast. And, , because it's, it's, it's important to make sure this work is growing and other people hear about it.

And I think a simple act of providing hope for people is so fundamental. Because most people suffer in silence because That's their lot.

And it doesn't, you know, in the same way as a diagnosis, doesn't have to be, doesn't have to define you. That doesn't have to be their lot. And, , why we allow people to be miserable if, through a tiny amount of effort, we can help them. It's because the reward, the reward is, it's not a financial thing. The reward is just, it's in your heart. And I would really encourage people just to, other people. And I know it's difficult, people don't necessarily want to accept this. Woo woo stuff because of the conditioning, but that's fine. You can offer.

You can lead a horse to water. You don't have to make it drink. So if we're trying our level best to help more people understand, that's a really good start.

And you are currently focusing on,  on eye training because you had an experience, very good experience where you healed your, your, your eye and you're offering these courses online, right? So anyone in the world who, you know, feels like, okay, I want to improve my eye health can join these courses, can work with you and, , see for themselves what Zhineng Qigong can do in this case, particular with eye health.

I mean, obviously I know you're, you're Huyuan Qi therapist, so you can basically. deal with any, any,  , disease, , but your focus is currently on eye when it comes to trainings that you offer. 

I'm doing an online session once a month. So,  12th of January, , I'm doing a session, , in the morning UK time. And then 23rd of February, I'm doing a evening session UK time, just kind of fitting with America's wee bit better. so my, I did my first session in December. That was quite successful.

So it's quite nice when people turn up, , including a really nice gentleman. I met on the plane one day, we were just talking. It's always kind of nice when you just randomly introduce people.  and as long as people attend, I will run them because, it's just like an extension of my daily practice.

I just happen to do a whole bunch of people and do some talking and talk a bit about theory and just help people understand really simple things, you know, show people the ability of them, their mind to, , make a change to themselves physically and then actually feel themselves doing a practice. , at the end of that, I, I've always found,  having an audio recording is really helpful to people.

That's certainly some of the feedback I had. , videos are fine, but actually when people are trying to do a practice, it's easier for them to have their eyes closed and just listen to instruction. So I, I've got some condensed versions of how to do these practices that just really designed for someone to stick in their, you know, earbud or whatever and just go and do a practice.

And you can do that at home, walking around, doesn't really matter. Because that just helps people get over that initial bit about getting into the habit of doing something and then not having to think too much about, well what do I need to do if something guides me. And in time it then becomes just part of your muscle memory, you know the practice, then you can spend more time, like I ended up doing, really thinking about, oh, why am I doing these movements, right?

And every time I go up, I feel something move, Qi being moved, right, oh okay, I understand, qi is moving. And before you know what, you're not only gathering qi, you're learning how to have that flow again properly through your body. Because actually, having your qi levels topped up, and then encouraging the network of your body to actually distribute the qi where it needs to be, that fixes so many problems.

It doesn't, it's not, really isn't rocket science. In the straight process, design, head, I'd go, make sure you're getting enough qi, make sure it flows. Let the stuff do what it needs to do. It's certainly worked for me and I've seen it work for a few people. So really keen to try and help people understand that really basic message.

And we will put your, your contact details in the show notes, obviously. So anybody who would like to work with you or join the workshops can get in touch. And, , I think, , yeah, this is great finishing point because you've been a very inspiring guest here. And I think we touched quite a few key points when it comes to why people heal and what the success factors might be.

, so I think this is a, , was a very good conversation here and I hope many, many people will benefit from it. So thank you very much, David, for, , Being with me today and, , yeah, I look forward to have you again on the show or see you again in person. I had the privilege to meet you and not too long ago, it was really fun to be with you, but I'm sure people can tell that you're not just a great therapist, but also a fun person to be around with.

And, , so if you can't make it to his online calls, yeah, maybe you should go out with him, , for a glass of healthy orange juice or something and, , have some fun.

Thanks for the time that you took, great speaking with 

Thank you, David. And have a fantastic day further.

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